Ep. 8: Connection and Spiritual Depth with Michael Gay
The BrassBalls TenderHeart Podcast · Episode 8 · Originally released January 24, 2026 · 45 min
Counselor Michael Gay shares how he found his way into men’s work through spirituality, psychology and wilderness therapy, along with influences like Robert Bly.
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About this episode
He and Bryce talk about reclaiming both fierceness and vulnerability, the isolation of modern life, and why meaningful relationships are essential to healing.
Key takeaways
- Men’s work draws on both spirituality and psychology.
- Men can reclaim fierceness and vulnerability at the same time.
- Modern life isolates men, and that isolation takes a toll.
- Healing happens in relationship.
About Michael Gay
Michael Gay is a counselor with a background in wilderness therapy and men’s work.
Doing this work yourself?
Bryce Giron Mathern, LPC, works with men, dads and couples in Denver. If this episode hit home, start here:
